Aaran, 43, Winchester
Occupation Works in executive recruitment
Voting record Labour in the past, but recently voted Lib Dem because he moved to a Tory stronghold. Never Conservative
Amuse bouche Lived for a time in Malaysia and Indonesia, and loved it, but discovered how much he missed the UK – the ease of things, the standards and, most of all, the seasons
Mashood, 51, East Hampshire
Occupation CEO and founder of an internet broadband service provider
Voting record Used to be between Conservative and Lib Dem, but the Tories are now Reform, Reform are now Tories, and he’s not really enamoured of either. Mashood does like some of the Greens’ policies, and Zack Polanski
Amuse bouche Moved to Dubai in 2005, thinking it would be the next Singapore or Hong Kong. He wanted to be part of a new city that was growing. Came back in 2019
For starters
Mashood He supports Arsenal, IÂ support Man U, so that broke the ice.
Aaran We were huge competitors in the late 90s, the fiercest of rivals, but we’ve not been competitive for 20-odd years.
Mashood I had pasta, a caprese salad, and we had some garlic bread to share.
Aaran I had the devilled prawns and then seafood spaghetti.
The big beef
Aaran Kids shouldn’t really have smartphones – it’s akin to tobacco in the 1960s and 70s. We, the public, didn’t realise how bad it was for us and the people selling it did. Tech giants know how addictive smartphones are. I think the government getting involved is a good thing.
Mashood Why do parents give their kids smartphones in the first place? They say they need to know where they are, but you can’t tag your kids like you’d tag a dog. We live in the safest society, in terms of CCTV everywhere. If the world seems dangerous, it’s just because of the age we are and the fact we’re parents. I don’t think the kids themselves feel unsafe. The parents giving their kids smartphones and then asking for bans are outsourcing their own responsibilities to the government.
Aaran He viewed politicians as intervening to make a point, without meaning it, and those interventions not being fit for purpose. But I’d rather they did something than nothing.
Mashood A social media ban isn’t enforceable. Even with the Online Safety Act, they’ve only touched the top 10 providers of porn. As soon as the age verification came in, the number of VPNs went though the roof in this country, as people bypassed controls.
Sharing plate
Aaran We talked about tax and agreed it’s confusing that the onus is so high on the individual compared with the tax rates on corporations. Half your income goes on tax, and then you read about organisations who aren’t paying anything.
Mashood With green taxes, we all pay surcharges for flights, but the oil companies etc are getting away with it. If environmental taxation were to be effective, that policy would need to target businesses.
For afters
Aaran AI is already automating things like finance processing and credit control, and often…
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